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04/10/2008 02:43 PM House FIN


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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 10, 2008                                                                                            
                         2:43 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  called the  House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 2:43:37 PM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Bryan Butcher,  Legislative Liaison, Alaska  Housing Finance                                                                    
Corporation;  Pete  Ecklund,   Staff,  Representative  Kevin                                                                    
Meyer;  Rynnieva Moss,  Staff, Representative  John Coghill;                                                                    
Representative  Anna   Fairclough;  David   Teal,  Director,                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division; Eddy Jeans,  Director, School                                                                    
Finance,  Department  of  Education and  Early  Development;                                                                    
John  Bitney,  Staff,   Representative  John  Harris;  James                                                                    
Cunningham,    Staff,     Representative    Bill    Stoltze;                                                                    
Representative  Lindsey   Holmes;  Frank   Richards,  Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner of Highways &  Public Facilities, Department of                                                                    
Transportation   and   Public   Facilities;   Leta   Simons,                                                                    
Director,  Division  of   Support  Services,  Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Pat  Galvin,  Commissioner,   Department  of  Revenue;  Mike                                                                    
Navarre,  Arctic Power;  Harold C.  Heinze, Chief  Executive                                                                    
Officer, Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS SB 221(FIN) am                                                                                                               
          An   Act  making   and  amending   appropriations,                                                                    
          including  capital   appropriations,  supplemental                                                                    
          appropriations,  and appropriations  to capitalize                                                                    
          funds; and providing for an effective date.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          HCS CSSB 221 (FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee                                                                      
          with a "do pass" recommendation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 289    An Act  relating to  home energy  conservation and                                                                    
          weatherization for purposes of certain programs                                                                       
          of the Alaska Housing and Finance Corporation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          SB 289  was REPORTED out  of Committee with  a "do                                                                    
          pass" recommendation and with attached zero                                                                           
          fiscal note #1 by the Department of Revenue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 289                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to home energy conservation and                                                                            
     weatherization for purposes of certain programs of the                                                                     
     Alaska Housing and Finance Corporation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer updated the status of the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN BUTCHER,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, ALASKA  HOUSING FINANCE                                                                    
CORPORATION  (AHFC), explained  that the  bill would  update                                                                    
weatherization from a low-income  program to a more general,                                                                    
median-income   program.   Another   program,   the   Energy                                                                    
Efficiency  Rebate Program,  provides  incentive for  people                                                                    
who do not qualify for the weatherization program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:46:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked  if the  ratio in  the bill  was                                                                    
connected  to another  funding bill  with  a similar  income                                                                    
ratio. Mr. Butcher explained that  the money for the funding                                                                    
bill was separate,  and had been locked in. The  ratio in SB
289 could  be adjusted. Representative Kelly  stated that he                                                                    
did not think the one-third/two-thirds ratio was proper.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to REPORT SB 289 from Committee                                                                        
with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note.                                                                       
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 289 was REPORTED out of Committee with a "do pass"                                                                           
recommendation and with attached zero fiscal note #1 by the                                                                     
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 221(FIN) am                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act making  and amending  appropriations, including                                                                    
     capital  appropriations,  supplemental  appropriations,                                                                    
     and appropriations  to capitalize funds;  and providing                                                                    
     for an effective date.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE        2:49:50 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE           2:51:07 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #1 (Copy on File):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     1) Language section: Page 204 lines 10 and 11;                                                                             
     a.  Delete:   Department  of   Transportation  and                                                                         
     Public Facilities                                                                                                          
     b. Insert: as a grant under AS 37.05.315 to  the                                                                           
     Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                                  
     Moves project  to the correct recipient                                                                                    
     2) Numbers section: Page 180 line 32                                                                                       
     a. Delete: Improvements                                                                                                    
     b. Insert: Facility Improvements                                                                                           
     Title correction                                                                                                           
     3) Numbers section: Page 53 line 8 and 9                                                                                   
     a. Delete: East Boat Harbor Feasibility Study                                                                              
     b. Insert:  Spit Trail  Completion/Harbor Pathways                                                                         
     Title correction                                                                                                           
     4) Language section:                                                                                                       
     Page 193; Delete: Section 30(e)                                                                                            
     Page 201; Delete: lines 28-30                                                                                              
     Insert  the following  on page  201,  line 28  and                                                                         
     renumber accordingly:                                                                                                      
     (b)  The sum  of $1,127,820  is appropriated  from                                                                         
     the general  fund to  the major  maintenance grant                                                                         
     fund (AS  14.11.007) for payment as  grants by the                                                                         
     Department of  Education and Early  Development to                                                                         
     the  school  districts  listed  for  the  projects                                                                         
     described in the amounts set out:                                                                                          
     Adjusts the  above language to mirror  other major                                                                         
     maintenance school grants in the capital bill                                                                              
     5) Language section:                                                                                                       
     Page 203 line 9                                                                                                            
     a. Delete: 39,000,000                                                                                                    
     b.  Insert: 39,123,200                                                                                                   
     Page 203 line 10                                                                                                           
     c. Delete: 23,140,000                                                                                                    
     d. Insert: 23,016,800                                                                                                    
     Page 203 line 12                                                                                                           
     e. Delete: 70,000,000                                                                                                    
     f. Insert: 70 ,640,000                                                                                                   
     Language correction suggested by ADF&G/Law                                                                                 
     6) Numbers section:                                                                                                        
     Page 93 lines 5-6                                                                                                          
     a. Delete: Ester Volunteer Fire Department                                                                               
     b. Insert: Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                                  
     c. Move  to Grants  to Municipalities in  the same                                                                         
     section of the bill                                                                                                        
     Recipient correction                                                                                                       
     7) Language Section (25-GS2007\N.1 Bailey)                                                                                 
     Page 193, following line 28:                                                                                               
     a. Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                        
     "(f) The  sum of  $5,000,000 is  appropriated from                                                                         
     the general fund to  the information services fund                                                                         
     (AS44.2 J.045(a))."                                                                                                        
     b. Page 208, line 1, following "30(d),"                                                                                    
     c. Insert "30(f), "                                                                                                      
     Corrects   ISF  fund   capitalization  which   was                                                                         
     inadvertently left out of the N draft                                                                                      
     8) Numbers Section:                                                                                                        
     Page 120 line 19-22                                                                                                        
     a. Delete all material                                                                                                   
     Page 123 line 3-6                                                                                                          
     b. Increase   to  300,000   general  funds   (plus                                                                       
        75,000)                                                                                                                 
     c. Amend  title  to  say:  "Fairbanks  North  Star                                                                       
        Borough - Steese Aerial Ladder Fire/Rescue                                                                              
        Truck (HD 7-11)"                                                                                                        
     Corrects  the recipient  and title  and  is a  net                                                                         
     decrease of 150,000 in general funds                                                                                       
     9) Numbers Section:                                                                                                        
     Page III line 8                                                                                                            
     Delete: "Construction"                                                                                                     
     Insert: "Educational Books and Library Materials,                                                                          
     Furnishings, and Equipment" Corrects project                                                                               
title                                                                                                                           
     10) Numbers Section: Page 28 line 27-28                                                                                  
     Delete:' Outdoor Bathroom Facilities'                                                                                      
     Insert: 'Passenger and Baggage Facilities'                                                                                 
     11) Language Section:                                                                                                      
     Page 205 lines 18-24                                                                                                       
     a. Delete all material                                                                                                     
     b.   Insert:   "ALASKA   ENERGY   AUTHORITY.   The                                                                         
     unexpended and unobligated  balance, not to exceed                                                                         
     $10,000,000,  of the  appropriation  made in  sec.                                                                         
     78(c),  I, SSSLA  2002  (Alaska Energy  Authority,                                                                         
     upgrade  and  extend  the Anchorage  to  Fairbanks                                                                         
     power transmission intertie  to Teeland substation                                                                         
     -$20,300,000)    is    re-appropriated   to    the                                                                         
     Department  of Commerce,  Community, and  Economic                                                                         
     Development,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,  for  the                                                                         
     Alaska intertie static  VAR compensators and tower                                                                         
     upgrade and repair."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Add capital lapse provisions and June 30effective                                                                          
     date                                                                                                                       
     This restores the language  included in an earlier                                                                         
     version of the bill                                                                                                        
     12) Numbers Section                                                                                                        
     Page 132 lines 21-24                                                                                                       
     Delete all Material                                                                                                        
     Insert:  in Section  13  grants to  municipalities                                                                         
     Kenai Peninsula  Borough: Bear Creek  Fire Service                                                                         
     Area-Community Multi Use Facility                                                                                          
     Amount: $55,000 GF                                                                                                         
     This is a net zero correction                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETE ECKLUND,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN  MEYER, explained                                                                    
the Amendment  as addressing  technical changes.  He pointed                                                                    
out  the fund  capitalization  to  the information  services                                                                    
fund for $5 million that was inadvertently dropped.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  referred  to item  11)  and  asked                                                                    
about the  intertie for  $20,300,000. Mr.  Ecklund explained                                                                    
the item  as language  included in  the Senate's  version of                                                                    
the bill. The  Amendment goes back to an  earlier version of                                                                    
the bill.  Representative Crawford asked where  the intertie                                                                    
was.  Mr. Ecklund  thought the  line went  between Anchorage                                                                    
and Fairbanks.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #1 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:55:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #1A (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
  1)   ADD to Section 10 of the SB 221                                                                                        
     Agency:    Commerce,   Community    and   Economic                                                                         
     Development   Project:   Chalkyitsik  -   Overhead                                                                         
     Electrical  Distribution System  Wiring Renovation                                                                         
     Amount: $100,000 General Fund                                                                                              
  2)   Page 92, line 28                                                                                                       
     Delete $4,000,000                                                                                                          
     Insert $5,000,000                                                                                                          
     Adds $1 million to the Covenant House Expansion                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund  explained that item  1) was scheduled to  be in                                                                    
the bill. There was confusion  about the appropriation so it                                                                    
was left  off. After further  clarification it was  put back                                                                    
in.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer spoke to the  second item, the Covenant House                                                                    
Expansion.   The  House   is  for   homeless  teenagers   in                                                                    
Anchorage.  There  are more  teenagers  with  need than  the                                                                    
facility can handle, so they  are looking for a new location                                                                    
for a new building. Originally  the item was for $4 million.                                                                    
They  need $10  million but  would be  able to  move forward                                                                    
with $5 million.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #1A was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #2 (Copy on File):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 202, line 11                                                                                                          
     Delete $3,720,841                                                                                                          
     Insert $4,504,401                                                                                                          
     Page 202, following line 26                                                                                              
     Add the following projects:                                                                                                
     Anchorage: Asplund Wastewater          206,000                                                                             
     Treatment Facility                                                                                                         
     Disinfection Upgrade                                                                                                       
     Fairbanks: Wastewater                  91,535                                                                              
     Treatment Facility Plant                                                                                                   
     Clarifier Rehabilitation                                                                                                   
     Fairbanks North Star Borough:          103,500                                                                             
     Pioneer Park Water and Sewer                                                                                               
     Enhancement                                                                                                                
     Juneau: West Mendenhall                111,755                                                                             
     Valley Sewer Expansion Phase                                                                                               
     II                                                                                                                         
                                            125,351                                                                             
     Juneau: North Douglas Sewer                                                                                                
     Expansion Phase III                                                                                                        
     Juneau: East Valley                    41,918                                                                              
     Reservoir/Jordan Creek                                                                                                     
     Rehabilitation Project                                                                                                     
     Matanuska-Susitna Borough:                                                                                                 
     Central Landfill Expansion             l03,500                                                                             
     Phase IIIB                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund  explained that  the  Amendment  would add  the                                                                    
additional  state  funding  match   required  to  the  above                                                                    
projects impacted  by the changes  of AS 46.03.030(e)  in SB
303. These projects are impacted  by an amendment adopted to                                                                    
SB  303 that  increases the  50%  state match  to 60%  state                                                                    
match  for  projects  in municipalities  with  a  population                                                                    
greater than 10,000.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #2 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:59:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #3 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 205, line 2-5                                                                                                         
     Delete All Language                                                                                                        
     Insert:                                                                                                                    
     The  sum  of  $500,000 is  appropriated  from  the                                                                         
     regional cruise ship  impact fund (AS 43.50.230(c»                                                                         
     to  the Department  of  Transportation and  Public                                                                         
     Facilities  to  provide  operating  hours  of  the                                                                         
     Whittier  Tunnel  needed  to service  cruise  ship                                                                         
     vessels   and   accommodate  access   requirements                                                                         
     effected  by or  supporting  vessel servicing  for                                                                         
     the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained  that  the  Amendment  was                                                                    
technical in  nature. Mr. Ecklund  said the funds are  to be                                                                    
used  for regions  impacted by  cruise ship  passengers. Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer added that the language clarifies intent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #3 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #4 (Copy on File):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     *Sec.  A. HOUSE  DISTRICT 12.  The unexpended  and                                                                         
     unobligated balance  of the appropriation  made in                                                                         
     sec. 1,  ch. 82,  SLA 2003,  page 17,  lines 13-17                                                                         
     (Copper   River    School   District,   Glennallen                                                                         
     Elementary  School roof  design and  engineering -                                                                         
     $119,000) is  reappropriated to the  Department of                                                                         
     Commerce, Community  and Economic  Development for                                                                         
     payment  as  a grant  under  AS  37.05.316 to  the                                                                         
     Copper   River   School  District   for   facility                                                                         
     maintenance and repair.                                                                                                    
     *Sec. B.  LAPSE. The appropriation made  by sec. A                                                                         
     of this  Act is for  a capital project  and lapses                                                                         
     under AS 37.25.020.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained the net zero appropriation as a re-                                                                       
arranging of the use of the money.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #4 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #5 (Copy on File):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     1. Page 63, line 19-22, Delete all Material.                                                                               
     2.  Page  134,  line 27,  Add  $4,500,000  General                                                                         
     Funds                                                                                                                      
     Explanation:                                                                                                               
     The  Governor had  requested $4.5  million to  the                                                                         
     Department of Education  and Early Development for                                                                         
     the  "Alaska State  Library, Archives  and Museum:                                                                         
     Planning and Design of New Facility."                                                                                      
     The actual cost of phase  1 of the project is $7.5                                                                         
     million  and the  Juneau delegation  had requested                                                                         
     an  additional   $3  million   be  added   to  the                                                                         
     Governor's request.                                                                                                        
     The $3 million was  included in the Senate version                                                                         
     of  SB22l, but  the  Governor's  request for  $4.5                                                                         
     million was not.                                                                                                           
     When the  House added the Governor's  request back                                                                         
     into the bill, it was  added in a separate section                                                                         
     at $1.5 million rather than $4.5 million.                                                                                  
     This  amendment  corrects   and  consolidates  the                                                                         
     appropriation  into   a  single  line   item.  The                                                                         
     project will be funded at $7.5 million.                                                                                    
     Fund Source:  General Fund                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund explained  that the  Amendment consolidates  an                                                                    
appropriation that appears in two  sections of the bill into                                                                    
one section.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  added that the  Amendment was a  priority of                                                                    
the city of Juneau.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #5 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:03:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #6 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 56, following line 8:  Insert new material to                                                                         
     read:                                                                                                                      
     Matanuska-Susitna    Borough   Butte    Elementary                                                                         
     School: Library/Technology Upgrade (HD 13-16)                                                                              
     $7,500                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  explained   that  the  Amendment  funds                                                                    
library  and technology  upgrades for  the Butte  Elementary                                                                    
School.  This  is  similar to  funding  requests  for  other                                                                    
Anchorage and Mat-Su Valley schools in the CS.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  REMOVED  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #6 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:04:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  MOVED  to ADOPT  Replacement  Amendment  #7                                                                    
(Copy on File):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 67, lines 14-19:                                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
     Adjust fund source and totals accordingly.                                                                                 
     Page 205, line 8, following "GOVERNOR.":                                                                                   
     Insert "(a)"                                                                                                               
     Page 205, following line 11:                                                                                               
     Insert new subsections to read:                                                                                            
     "(b) The  sum of $25,000 is  appropriated from the                                                                         
     general  fund to  the Office  of  the Governor  to                                                                         
     facilitate educating the  public regarding current                                                                         
     state regulations of  mining and mining activities                                                                         
     in the  state, including providing  information to                                                                         
     influence   the   outcome   of  an   election   on                                                                         
     initiatives  affecting  those  mining  activities,                                                                         
     for  the fiscal  years ending  June 30,  2008, and                                                                         
     June 30, 2009.                                                                                                             
     (c) It is  the intent of the  legislature that the                                                                         
     appropriation  made by  (b) of  this section  meet                                                                         
     the requirements of AS 15.13.145."                                                                                         
     Page 208, line 2, following "55(d),":                                                                                      
     Insert "59(b),"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained that the  Amendment was at the request                                                                    
of the  Rules Committee Chairman to  add clarifying language                                                                    
to an already existing $25,000 appropriation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Gara   stated    concerns   about    money                                                                    
appropriated from the General  Fund to influence the outcome                                                                    
of an initiative.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA   MOSS,   STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE   JOHN   COGHILL,                                                                    
explained  that  AS 15.13.145(b)  says  that  money held  by                                                                    
certain entities may be used  to influence the outcome of an                                                                    
election concerning  a ballot  proposition or  question, but                                                                    
only if  the funds  have been specifically  appropriated for                                                                    
that  purpose by  a state  law or  municipal ordinance.  The                                                                    
Amendment assigns  $25,000 to the  Governor to  address what                                                                    
effect the passage  or failure of the  initiative would have                                                                    
on the mining industry.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  understood that it might  be authorized                                                                    
by statute, but he questioned whether it was right.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  hoped the State would  be open-minded                                                                    
and  give facts  on both  sides. He  supports the  Amendment                                                                    
from that stance.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze   queried  how  game  issues   would  be                                                                    
impacted.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Moss  replied  that  science would  be  allowed  to  be                                                                    
included in the information provided.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  spoke to  concerns about  the State                                                                    
weighing  in  on  initiatives.   He  called  for  clarifying                                                                    
language stating the information  must be objective in order                                                                    
to prevent bias.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  thought it was the  responsibility of the                                                                    
State to inform  the public on both sides,  which could help                                                                    
citizens discern the issue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  read   the  Amendment  as  providing                                                                    
constraint  on the  information  provided  the public  about                                                                    
mining  activities.  The  election would  have  $25  million                                                                    
dollars in funding  on both sides, and it made  sense to him                                                                    
for the State to spend $25,000  to say there is a regulatory                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  asked   if  the   Administration  was                                                                    
targeting  the clean  water initiative.  Ms. Moss  said yes.                                                                    
Representative  Gara stated  that  he  closely followed  the                                                                    
issue  and  thought  the  State  made it  hard  to  get  the                                                                    
initiative    on   the    ballot,   indicating    that   the                                                                    
Administration does  have a  position. He  did not  want the                                                                    
money to  be spent to  influence the election. He  wanted to                                                                    
delete  the clause  "provide  information  to influence  the                                                                    
outcome of an election."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:15:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule pointed out that  the State has had the                                                                    
option  to weigh  in on  any issue,  but it  seldom has.  He                                                                    
stated his support for the Amendment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford   reiterated  concerns   about  the                                                                    
government  weighing  in on  the  outcome  of initiates.  He                                                                    
called for an  amendment to the Amendment  to add "unbiased"                                                                    
before  information   to replace  "influence the  outcome of                                                                    
an election" with "inform about an election."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  believed  that the  Administration  has                                                                    
been    even-handed.   He    stated   confidence    in   the                                                                    
Administration exercising integrity.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford clarified that  he was talking about                                                                    
the  future of  initiatives  and felt  precedence was  being                                                                    
set. He  wanted unbiased information. He  had confidence the                                                                    
Palin administration  would exercise discretion,  but wanted                                                                    
the language added for future administrations.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:19:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Moss  reminded the  Committee  that  the Amendment  was                                                                    
written to comply with the language of the statute.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara did  not  think  anything improper  had                                                                    
been done  related regarding the present  initiative. He did                                                                    
not want government involved in initiatives.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss  clarified that the  Amendment came from  the Rules                                                                    
Committee and  a desire  for science to  be involved  in the                                                                    
decisions made on the mining initiative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Nelson referred  to  legislation related  to                                                                    
disclosure of  funding sources  for initiatives.  She stated                                                                    
concerns about out-of-state money  going into the initiative                                                                    
process.  The  federal  government  owns  much  of  land  in                                                                    
Alaska,  which makes  Alaskan issues  compelling to  outside                                                                    
interests.   The   process    of   making   legislation   is                                                                    
deliberative,  but initiatives  are  more emotional.  Alaska                                                                    
has a  good record on  the mining  issue, but fear  is being                                                                    
capitalized  upon. She  thought the  Amendment should  allow                                                                    
more money to be spent on this particular initiative.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:25:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  supported   the   language  in   the                                                                    
Amendment. He  worried that each piece  of information could                                                                    
be challenged to be perfectly  neutral. He cautioned against                                                                    
changing the language.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas gave an  example of controversy over a                                                                    
mine.  He  wanted   the  State  to  give   the  facts  about                                                                    
regulating mining.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  described his experience with  the Red                                                                    
Dog  Mine.  He did  not  know  where  the line  was  between                                                                    
getting  information   out  and   bias.  He   supported  the                                                                    
Amendment as written.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford reiterated his  support for the mine                                                                    
and the mining industry in  the state. He did not understand                                                                    
why  people   were  afraid  of   the  word   "unbiased."  He                                                                    
anticipated a disagreement with  a future administration. He                                                                    
stated his frustration and withdrew his proposed amendment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  reiterated  concerns about  the  State                                                                    
taking sides.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  MOVED   amendment  #1  to  Replacement                                                                    
Amendment  #7: After  the  word  "State,delete    "including                                                                    
providing  information  to  influence   the  outcome  of  an                                                                    
election on initiatives  affecting those mining activities."                                                                    
That way the appropriation could be used for education.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly OBJECTED for DISCUSSION.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly   referred  to  his   experience  with                                                                    
advertising  done  on  mining   issues.  Both  sides  seemed                                                                    
equally strong. He thought the  State could provide accurate                                                                    
information that  would properly  influence an  election. If                                                                    
the language  was taken  out, the State  might not  have the                                                                    
power to truly educate. He  did not support the amendment to                                                                    
Replacement Amendment #7.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  opposed   the   amendment  to   the                                                                    
Amendment. He  characterized the  language to be  removed as                                                                    
  afe  harbor" language  that could  protect  the State.  He                                                                    
worried that the State could be sued by either side of an                                                                       
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his amendment to the                                                                               
Amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Replacement Amendment #7 was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #8 (Copy on                                                                         
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Insert new material into sec. 10 to read:                                                                                  
     Anchorage - Eagle River Town Center (HD 17-32)                                                                             
     General Fund 1,200,000                                                                                                     
     Adjust fund sources and totals accordingly.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This   amendment   allows  the   Municipality   of                                                                         
     Anchorage  to  purchase  about40%  of  the  Valley                                                                         
     River  Center building  in  Eagle River  (43,000),                                                                         
     which it would own in a condominium arrangement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This  space   would  be  renovated  to   house  an                                                                         
     expanded   Chugiak-Eagle  River   Library,  Police                                                                         
     substation, Emergency  Operations Annex, Community                                                                         
     Meeting  Room,  and   all  Eagle  River  Municipal                                                                         
     Offices   and  Services   including  Chugiak-Eagle                                                                         
     River    Parks     &    Recreation,    Development                                                                         
     Services/Permitting,  Road  Maintenance, Health  &                                                                         
     Human  Services/WIC  Program  and  the  Assessors'                                                                         
     office.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The  Eagle River  community  has  sought for  many                                                                         
     years  to   develop  a  Town  Center   that  would                                                                         
     incorporate   both   retail   space   and   public                                                                         
     facilities including  Library, meeting  rooms, and                                                                         
     Municipal  offices   and  services.   The  project                                                                         
     described   here   would  fulfill   this   vision,                                                                         
     consistent  with a  central recommendation  of the                                                                         
     2003   Eagle  River   Central  Business   District                                                                         
     Revitalization Plan.  The CBDR Plan  was developed                                                                         
     with  extensive  public  involvement  and  foresaw                                                                         
     many economic and  community benefits arising from                                                                         
     the synergies of such a town core development.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANNA FAIRCLOUGH, addressed the Amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara understood  the project  was relatively                                                                    
new.  He  asked  for  backup  information  on  the  project.                                                                    
Representative   Fairclough  described   support  from   the                                                                    
municipal assembly  and the Eagle  River Chugiak  Chamber of                                                                    
Commerce  as  well as  the  mayor  of Anchorage.  Vice-Chair                                                                    
Stoltze pointed out  a letter from the  Mayor. He apologized                                                                    
that  the  project  had  not been  introduced  in  a  timely                                                                    
manner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker pointed  to public  testimony on  the                                                                    
record from the Eagle River Chamber of Commerce.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Chenault    asked    about    matching    funds.                                                                    
Representative Fairclough said  the Rasmussen Foundation had                                                                    
pledged $4  million for  library support  and the  Mayor has                                                                    
pledged support. Vice-Chair Stoltze  gave more details about                                                                    
a service area match.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  REMOVED  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #8 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  #9 (Copy on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     P. 67, line 14                                                                                                             
     Insert: Cordova Area Skate $50,000 Fishery                                                                                 
     Development (HD 1-40)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas explained the Amendment:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     This  project  will  enable ADF&G  to  conduct  an                                                                         
     exploratory  state-waters   directed  fishery  for                                                                         
     skates in  the Cordova  area. Local  fishermen and                                                                         
     processors  have  expressed   interest  in  a  new                                                                         
     fishery  that  will   increase  opportunities  for                                                                         
     entry level  fishermen. The fishery will  help the                                                                         
     industry by augmenting  economic activity at times                                                                         
     when  the  salmon  fishery  is  closed.  This  new                                                                         
     fishery  will help  by providing  an opening  that                                                                         
     involves lower  initial costs  to fishermen.  If a                                                                         
     permanent  directed  fishery can  be  established,                                                                         
     registration  will  be   open  to  all  commercial                                                                         
     fishermen.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In    order     to    fulfill     its    statutory                                                                         
     responsibilities  for  management, the  Department                                                                         
     of Fish &  Game needs funding in  order to collect                                                                         
     data on  stock distribution, abundance,  size, sex                                                                         
     and  age data,  and by-catch  percentages. Without                                                                         
     this  critical data,  the Board  of Fish  will not                                                                         
     have adequate information  to approve a full-scale                                                                         
     directed  fishery. The  Commissioner  of Fish  and                                                                         
     Game  and  the  Director of  Commercial  Fisheries                                                                         
     have indicated  that the requested funding  is the                                                                         
     minimum amount  that will enable them  to complete                                                                         
     the necessary work.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if  skate  was  the   poor  man                                                                      
scallop.  Representative Thomas  replied in the affirmative.                                                                    
Co-Chair  Chenault asked  if the  project would  be on-going                                                                    
and  if  it  would  be incorporated  into  the  Department's                                                                    
budget.   Representative Thomas replied  it would be  a one-                                                                    
time source,  but if  productive, it might  be put  into the                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  REMOVED  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #9 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #10 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Challenger Learning Center                                                                                                 
     Page 37, lines 16-18:                                                                                                      
     Delete all material (contingency language).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault explained the Amendment as an attempt to                                                                      
help the Challenger Learning Center stay open while growing                                                                     
in self-sufficiency.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                            
further OBJECTION, Amendment #10 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:51:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #11 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Amend sec. 23,  Department of Commerce, Community,                                                                         
     and   Economic  Development,   by  adding   a  new                                                                         
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
     (e) The  sum of$164,000  is appropriated  from the                                                                         
     general  fund  to   the  Department  of  Commerce,                                                                         
     Community,  and  Economic  Development,  community                                                                         
     and  regional affairs,  for grants  administration                                                                         
     costs for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.                                                                            
     This needs the July 1, 2008 effective date.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault explained the Amendment:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This additional funding is  required to manage the                                                                         
     ever-increasing  number   of  grants  appropriated                                                                         
     through the  department. In  Chapter 11,  SLA 2008                                                                         
     (SB 256),  51 grants  totaling $12.3  million were                                                                         
     appropriated  to the  department. This  version of                                                                         
     the capital  budget adds over 800  grants totaling                                                                         
     several hundred million dol1ars.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     This increase  is added  to the  existing workload                                                                         
     of  approximately  1,800  grants, resulting  in  a                                                                         
     total   of   approximately   2,600   grants.   The                                                                         
     department     currently    has     eight    grant                                                                         
     administrators  to handle  the existing  workload;                                                                         
     an average of225 grants per administrator.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     The    department    needs   two    more    Grants                                                                         
     Administrators, range 17A  ($82.0 each) to process                                                                         
     the grants as  soon as possible. The  grants in SB
     256 were  appropriated with  the intent  that they                                                                         
     be  executed in  time  for the  spring barges  for                                                                         
     remote  areas -in  less then  60  days. The  grant                                                                         
     workload may  result in delays  of issuance  of FY                                                                         
     2009  grants and  could result  in the  department                                                                         
     being  in   violation  of  Alaska   statutes  that                                                                         
     require  legislative   grants  be   issued  within                                                                         
     specific  timeframes.  With  the large  number  of                                                                         
     grants,  it becomes  difficult  for  the staff  to                                                                         
     provide   grant   recipients  with   much   needed                                                                         
     technical  assistance, maintain  grant expenditure                                                                         
     accountability,  and   ensure  strict   state  and                                                                         
     federal   compliance   standards   are   met.   In                                                                         
     addition,  grants  managers  must respond  to  the                                                                         
     hundreds of  inquiries about the status  of grants                                                                         
     throughout the year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     In summary,  these two positions are  requested to                                                                         
     provide  an important  public service  as well  as                                                                         
     ensure  compliance  with   minimum  standards  and                                                                         
     statutes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                         
further OBJECTION, Amendment #11 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #12 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Delete  from  Department   of  Transportation  and                                                                         
     Public Facilities,  sec. 10,  page 157,  lines 24-                                                                         
     28:                                                                                                                        
     Klatt   Road  Pedestrian   FacilitiesConstruct   C                                                                         
     Street  Trail to  Via Appia  Way (North  Side) (HD                                                                         
     17-32)                                                                                                                     
     $220,000 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Add  to  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and                                                                         
     Economic Development, sec. 10, page 76:                                                                                    
     Klatt   Road  Pedestrian   FacilitiesConstruct   C                                                                         
     Street  Trail to  Via Appia  Way (North  Side) (HD                                                                         
     17-32)                                                                                                                     
     $220,000 General Fund                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Klatt  Road  is   currently  a  state-owned  road,                                                                         
     however,  the pedestrian  facilities  to be  added                                                                         
     will be  owned by  the Municipality  of Anchorage.                                                                         
     Therefore,   this  appropriation   should  go   to                                                                         
     Anchorage via  a grant  through the  Department of                                                                         
     Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #12 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #13 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Amend  sec. 58,  Department of  Transportation and                                                                         
     Public Facilities,  by adding a new  subsection to                                                                         
     read:                                                                                                                      
     (k) The  sum of  $426,375.47 is  appropriated from                                                                         
     the   General   Fund    to   the   Department   of                                                                         
     Transportation   and  Public   Facilities,  marine                                                                         
     vessel operations, for  payment of the arbitration                                                                         
     award   to  the   International  Organization   of                                                                         
     Masters,  Mates, and  Pilots for  the fiscal  year                                                                         
     ending June 30, 2008.                                                                                                      
     Amend  sec.  68  by  adding   sec.  58(k)  so  the                                                                         
     effective date is April 13, 2008.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #13 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:56:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #14 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Amend the  title of the  project on pg.  153, line                                                                         
     28 to read:                                                                                                                
     Statewide [SOLDOTNA  STATE TROOPER  POST] Facility                                                                         
     Deferred  Maintenance  /  Repair  /  Renovation  /                                                                         
     Improvements (HD 33-35)                                                                                                    
     $199,880                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This   Amendment   will    give   the   department                                                                         
     flexibility   to    reallocate   funding   between                                                                         
     projects  as  needed  to deal  with  the  projects                                                                         
     listed   as  well   as  address   additional  high                                                                         
     priority  facility  issues  that may  arise.  This                                                                         
     flexibility   is  needed   to   ensure  that   all                                                                         
     department  facilities have  necessary maintenance                                                                         
     funding.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #14 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly referenced  Amendment #13 and requested                                                                    
information   from   the    Administration   regarding   the                                                                    
settlement  payment. He  acknowledged  that it  needs to  be                                                                    
paid, but expressed concerns about seeing it again.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #15 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Delete from Department  of Commerce, Community and                                                                         
     Economic Development,  sec. 10, page 56,  lines 5-                                                                         
     8:                                                                                                                         
     Matanuska-Susitna BoroughBurma   Road Realignment,                                                                         
     Upgrading and Paving (HD 13-16)                                                                                            
     $5,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                    
     Add  to Department  of  Transportation and  Public                                                                         
     Facilities, sec. 10, page 76:                                                                                              
     Matanuska-Susitna  BoroughBurma  Road  Upgrade (HD                                                                         
     13-16)                                                                                                                     
     $5,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained  that the Burma Road  is a state-owned                                                                    
road  so   the  Department  of  Transportation   and  Public                                                                    
Facilities is the responsible party for road upgrades.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #15 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  WITHDREW  Amendment #16.  He  thanked                                                                    
Marsha Davis  for answering  the questions  that need  to be                                                                    
answered.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #17 was not included in the packet.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:00:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #18 (Copy on                                                                     
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 180, Line 27                                                                                                          
     DELETE: $4,500,000                                                                                                         
     Insert: $2,500,000                                                                                                         
     Page 180, Line 32                                                                                                          
     INSERT: Skagway  -Dahl Memorial  Clinic Relocation                                                                         
     and Expansion                                                                                                              
     Amount: $2,000,000                                                                                                         
     Funding Source                                                                                                             
     Cruise  Ship  Passenger  Vessel  Tax  Account  (AS                                                                         
     43.52.040)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas explained the Amendment:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The municipality of Skagway sees the thirdhighest                                                                          
     number  of cruise  ship passengers  in the  state.                                                                         
     The  impacts  on this  community  of  800 are  far                                                                         
     greater than  perhaps anywhere  else in  the state                                                                         
     since  what little  infrastructure Skagway  has is                                                                         
     strained  to  the  breaking point  to  accommodate                                                                         
     such a high influx of people.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     One of  the areas  that sees  a major  impact from                                                                         
     cruise ship  passengers is the clinic.  The cruise                                                                         
     industry makes  up about 30%  of the  total visits                                                                         
     during the  year. This  includes dealing  with one                                                                         
     or  two cruise  ship passenger  deaths each  year.                                                                         
     Also, the  emergency room visits  go up  about 50%                                                                         
     due to cruise ship passengers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Due to  the fact that  it was built for  a smaller                                                                         
     community,  the  medical   clinic  in  Skagway  is                                                                         
     woefully inadequate and no  longer meets the needs                                                                         
     of  the  community.   Shortcomings  include  size,                                                                         
     available technology,  and compliance  to building                                                                         
     codes. Skagway  is often  isolated from  access to                                                                         
     the  nearest  emergency   medical  care  found  in                                                                         
     Whitehorse  or Juneau  because  of severe  weather                                                                         
     that  disrupts  ferry service,  aircraft  flights,                                                                         
     and travel on the Klondike Highway.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  new  clinic   will  be  approximately  14,000                                                                         
     square feet  in size.  The size  of the  Clinic is                                                                         
     based on industry  standards and Denali Commission                                                                         
     program  requirements. Space  will be  provided in                                                                         
     the clinic to  house administrative, exam, triage,                                                                         
     laboratory,   radiology,   urgent  care,   dental,                                                                         
     behavioral health and training spaces.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas WITHDREW Amendment #18.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #19 (Copy on                                                                     
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 180, Line 21                                                                                                          
     DELETE: $1,250,000                                                                                                         
     Insert: $250,000                                                                                                           
     Page 181, Line 8                                                                                                           
     DELETE: $1,250,000                                                                                                         
     Insert: $250,000                                                                                                           
     Page 150, Line 32                                                                                                          
     INSERT: Skagway  -Dahl Memorial  Clinic Relocation                                                                         
     and Expansion                                                                                                              
     Amount: $2,000,000                                                                                                         
     Funding Source                                                                                                             
     Cruise  Ship  Passenger  Vessel  Tax  Account  (AS                                                                         
     43.52.040)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas WITHDREW Amendment #19.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #20 (Copy on                                                                     
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                            
   "(c) The sum of $35,400,000 is appropriated from the                                                                         
    general fund to the Department                                                                                              
    of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development,                                                                           
    fisheries enhancement revolving                                                                                             
   loan fund (AS 16.10.505), for the fiscal year ending                                                                         
    June 30, 2009, for salmon hatchery debt                                                                                     
    retirement for the following hatcheries:                                                                                    
   PURPOSE                                   ALLOCATION                                                                         
    (I) Douglas Island Pink and Chum                                                                                            
                                              $4,000,000                                                                        
    (HD 3)                                                                                                                      
    (2) Gunnuk Creek Hatchery (HD 5)          7,000,000                                                                         
    (3) Prince of Wales Hatchery                                                                                                
                                              1,800,000                                                                         
    Association (HD 5)                                                                                                          
    (4) Southern Southeast Regional           7,500,000                                                                         
    Aquaculture Association (HD 1)                                                                                              
    (5) Prince William Sound                                                                                                    
                                              5,000,000                                                                         
    Aquaculture                                                                                                                 
    Corporation (HD 5)                                                                                                          
    (6) Valdez Fisheries Development                                                                                            
                                                7,500,000                                                                       
    Association (HD 12)                                                                                                         
    (7) Cook Inlet Aquaculture                                                                                                  
   Association (HD 34)                        2,600,000"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas explained the  Amendment as asking for                                                                    
debt  relief.  He  expressed  concerns.  Vice-Chair  Stoltze                                                                    
agreed  with Representative  Thomas  concerning the  fishery                                                                    
enhancement.  Representative Thomas  pointed out  that three                                                                    
percent of the  gross is paid for an  enhancement tax. There                                                                    
have been attempts to get sport fishermen to contribute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas WITHDREW Amendment #20.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       4:08:37 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE:          5:54:31 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #21 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Amend section 30, Fund Transfers, by adding new                                                                           
     subsections to read:                                                                                                       
     (f) The sum of $100,000,000 is appropriated from                                                                           
      the general fund to the oil and gas tax credit                                                                            
     fund (AS 43.55.028(a).                                                                                                     
     (g) The sum of $225,000,000 is appropriated from                                                                           
      the general fund to the oil and gas tax credit                                                                            
     fund (AS 43.55.028(a).                                                                                                     
      Section f is effective June 30, 2008. Section g                                                                           
     is effective July 1, 2008.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID   TEAL,   DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE   DIVISION,                                                                    
explained the Amendment:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department  of   Revenue  has  increased  its                                                                         
     estimate of  the amount necessary for  tax credits                                                                         
     earned in FY08 to $250  million. The amount in the                                                                         
     fund is  $150 million,  $25 million from  the FY08                                                                         
     operating budget  and $125  million from  the fast                                                                         
     track  supplemental. Section  f adds  $100 million                                                                         
     to pay anticipated FY08 claims.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  department increased  its  estimate for  FY09                                                                         
     credits to  $400 million.  The amount  included in                                                                         
     the  FY09   operating  budget  is   $175  million.                                                                         
     Section g adds  $225 million to the  fund in order                                                                         
     to  pay anticipated  FY09 claims.  If FY08  claims                                                                         
     exceed   the  amount   available  in   FY08,  FY09                                                                         
     appropriations  to the  fund  can be  used to  pay                                                                         
     FY08 claims.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The state will  pay the same amount  for these tax                                                                         
     credits   regardless    of   whether    money   is                                                                         
     appropriated  for   this  purpose.  If   money  is                                                                         
     appropriated,  it   is  more  likely   that  state                                                                         
     payments will go to those  who earned the credits.                                                                         
     If  money is  not appropriated,  those who  earned                                                                         
     the credits are likely to  sell them at a discount                                                                         
     to major producers  who can turn them  in for full                                                                         
     credit against their production tax liability.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PAT GALVIN,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE (testified                                                                    
via teleconference),  explained the $325 million  needed for                                                                    
tax  credits  for  exploration activities.  Outfits  without                                                                    
current  production  to apply  credit  against  had to  sell                                                                    
those  and deduct  from  the receipt  from  the State.  ACES                                                                    
lifted  the cap  from non-producers.  The challenge  was how                                                                    
much  would be  spent.  There has  been  more activity  than                                                                    
expected.   The  credits   exceeded   what  was   originally                                                                    
allotted.  The  Amendment requests  more  money  to pay  the                                                                    
credits.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  pointed out that  although it would  be hard                                                                    
to pay the extra money, it was  good there has been a lot of                                                                    
oil  and  gas  activity.   Commissioner  Galvin  agreed  and                                                                    
pointed out the additional  activity undertaken by companies                                                                    
not currently producing in the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:59:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault supported  investment, but  was concerned                                                                    
that there was  so little notice to the  Legislature. He was                                                                    
curious  regarding   communication  between   Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources  and Department  of Revenue  in estimating                                                                    
the  dollar amount.  Commissioner Galvin  did not  think the                                                                    
issue was a communication  breakdown, but implementing a new                                                                    
tax and communicating about new  issues. The April 1 returns                                                                    
were a  surprise for  those doing  the estimating.  He hoped                                                                    
the surprise would not be repeated.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara wondered if  the credits were counted as                                                                    
expenditures or as less revenue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #21 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to roll Amendment  #22. There being                                                                    
NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #23 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Arctic Power Appropriation                                                                                                 
     Page 34, line 10:                                                                                                          
     Delete "120,000"                                                                                                           
     Insert "250,000"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  explained that  the Amendment  raises the                                                                    
appropriation  to   Arctic  Power  to  prevent   the  Arctic                                                                    
National Wildlife  Refuge (ANWR) from becoming  a wilderness                                                                    
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze supported the Amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  pointed  out  that  ANWR  is  in  his                                                                    
district.  He  wants the  area  opened  for exploration.  He                                                                    
thought the  request was appropriate and  stated his support                                                                    
of the Amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara was troubled  that Arctic Power had used                                                                    
State  money  for   advertisements  targeting  congressional                                                                    
members. He  did not think  it wise  to spend money  to keep                                                                    
the office open.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MIKE NAVARRE,  ARCTIC POWER (testified  via teleconference),                                                                    
explained  that the  requested amount  was  to continue  the                                                                    
presence of Arctic Power in  Washington, D.C. The additional                                                                    
amount would  fund another  position after  the presidential                                                                    
elections.   He   explained   the   process   of   educating                                                                    
congressional members in  order to be prepared  if the issue                                                                    
of ANWR comes up.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #23 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:11:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #24 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 86, line 20:                                                                                                          
       Add after "Alaska Energy AuthorityFire Island                                                                            
     Wind Farm Transmission Lines ($25,000,000)"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Crawford  explained   that  the   Amendment                                                                    
clarifies that  the $25 million  is contingent on  the owner                                                                    
of generation being legally obligated  to build a generation                                                                    
facility through  power sales agreements  that are  in place                                                                    
to accept the generation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #24 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:12:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  #25 (Copy on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 172, Line 31                                                                                                          
     Project:   Fairbanks   North   Star   BoroughRoad                                                                          
     Service Area Projects (HD 7-11)                                                                                            
     Delete: $5,000,000                                                                                                         
     Insert: $9,949,000                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that the  Amendment  would                                                                    
cover the full amount requested  by the Fairbanks North Star                                                                    
Borough for road service area projects.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer stated his support for the Amendment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #25 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:14:25 PM          AT EASE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:18:48 PM          RECONVENE                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  #26 (Copy on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: University of Alaska                                                                                               
     Project: Tanana Valley Campus                                                                                              
     Amount: $4,000,000                                                                                                         
     Funding Source: General Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained   that  the  project  would                                                                    
include   exterior    envelope   renovation,    civil   site                                                                    
improvements, interior  mechanical and  electrical upgrades,                                                                    
interior   hydronic   heating,   interior   direct   digital                                                                    
controls, and  approximately 3000  square feet  of renovated                                                                    
program space.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  asked if the  amount was  already figured                                                                    
in  the  operating  costs.  Representative  Kelly  said  the                                                                    
operating costs should go down after the renovations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault REMOVED  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #26 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:21:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #27 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Amend sec. 59, Office of the Governor, by adding                                                                           
     a new subsection to read:                                                                                                  
     (b)  The unexpended  and unobligated  general fund                                                                         
     balances  on June  30,2008, of  the appropriations                                                                         
     made in  sec. 1, ch.  28, SLA 2007, page  16, line                                                                         
     22  (Office of  the Governor,  commissions/special                                                                         
     offices -  $1,848,400); sec. 1, ch.  28, SLA 2007,                                                                         
     page  16,   line  26  (Office  of   the  Governor,                                                                         
     executive operations  - $10,795,200); sec.  1, ch.                                                                         
     28, SLA 2007, page 16,  lines 31 32 (Office of the                                                                         
     Governor, state  facilities rent  -$815,600); sec.                                                                         
     1, ch. 28, SLA 2007, page  17, lines 5 - 6 (Office                                                                         
     of the  Governor, office of management  and budget                                                                         
     - $2,043,600); and sec. 1,  ch. 28, SLA 2007, page                                                                         
     17, line  9 (Office  of the Governor,  elections -                                                                         
     $3,005,500)  are reappropriated  to the  Office of                                                                         
     the Governor  for operating  costs for  the fiscal                                                                         
     year ending June 30,2009.                                                                                                  
     Amend sec.  69 (June  30, 2008 effective  date) by                                                                         
     adding a reference to sec. 59(b).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This  is the  annual reappropriation  of remaining                                                                         
     FY08 balances  in the Office of  the Governor that                                                                         
     is  necessary to  fund  FY09  expenditures. It  is                                                                         
     anticipated  that  the  FY201  0  budget  will  be                                                                         
     developed  so  that  this  annual  reappropriation                                                                         
     will not be necessary at the end of FY09.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #27 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:22:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #28 (Copy                                                                      
on File):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 23, line 4                                                                                                            
     Delete: 30,000 General Fund                                                                                                
     Insert new project in Section  10, under Grants to                                                                         
     Municipalities (renumber accordingly)                                                                                      
     Anchorage    Scotty  Gomez  Skating Rink  Tikishla                                                                         
     Park Improvements                                                                                                          
     $30,000 General Fund                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford explained  the $30,000 general funds                                                                    
deleted from Totem  Ball Fields and transferred  in order to                                                                    
rebuild the Scotty  Gomez Skating Rink. He said  there was a                                                                    
$30,000 match from the Scotty Gomez Foundation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked   for  clarification.  Representative                                                                    
Crawford explained  the Totem Ball  Fields would  be reduced                                                                    
by that amount.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara wanted  to  consider  not deleting  the                                                                    
amount  from  the   ballpark  appropriation.  Representative                                                                    
Crawford said that would not be necessary.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #28 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:26:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  MOVED  to  ADOPT  Amendment  #29  on                                                                    
behalf of Representative Foster (Copy on File):                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Funds  appropriated  for   the  Major  Maintenance                                                                         
     Grant  Fund  (AS  14.11.007)  projects  which  are                                                                         
     determined  by  the  Department of  Education  and                                                                         
     Early   Development  to   not   be  required   for                                                                         
     completion  are  hereby   reappropriated  to  fund                                                                         
     school  major maintenance  projects in  accordance                                                                         
     with the  department's December 17,  2008 rankings                                                                         
     as funding  becomes available in  the department's                                                                         
     determination.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  explained   that  major  maintenance                                                                    
grants not utilized will go  to the next available school on                                                                    
the list. Some  of the communities opted to go  to the state                                                                    
matching  grant program  instead  of  the major  maintenance                                                                    
list.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  stated  that  two  Anchorage  schools  were                                                                    
eligible for the 70/30 debt  reimbursement bond, which frees                                                                    
up the money in the capital budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
EDDY   JEANS,  DIRECTOR,   SCHOOL  FINANCE,   DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
EDUCATION AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT, pointed out  that the next                                                                    
two projects  on the list  were for Tanana City  Schools and                                                                    
for Unalakleet in the Bering Strait District.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker clarified  that the  Amendment was  a                                                                    
conceptual  amendment and  the  drafters  were empowered  to                                                                    
correct the language.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for  more information.  Mr. Jeans                                                                    
explained that  the appropriation  in the capital  budget is                                                                    
to the Major  Maintenance Fund, but also  has allocations to                                                                    
individual  projects. The  intent  of the  Amendment was  to                                                                    
make the next project  on the list available. Representative                                                                    
Gara asked  if the  other projects were  funded in  order of                                                                    
ranking.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #29 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:30:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #30 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Dept. of Community & Economic Development Grants                                                                           
     to Municipalities (AS 37.05.315)                                                                                           
     Matanuska Susitna Borough - Sutton Library Land                                                                            
     Acquisition $600,000 General Fund                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer explained the Amendment as for                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Construction  of a  new community  facility/public                                                                         
     library in  Sutton. The facility  is approximately                                                                         
     5,800  square feet  and will  provide services  to                                                                         
     residences  along the  Upper Glenn  Highway (Moose                                                                         
     Creek,  Sutton,  Chickaloon,  and  Glacier  View).                                                                         
     This  project is  a  priority  established by  the                                                                         
     local community council and the borough assembly.                                                                          
     Matching funds  of $600,000 have been  approved by                                                                         
     the Mat-Su  Borough, and  there is  an application                                                                         
     pending at  the Rasmussen Foundation  for $658,000                                                                         
     this  year.  Additional  funds  have  been  raised                                                                         
     locally  -  along  with   thousands  of  hours  of                                                                         
     volunteer in-kind services.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BITNEY, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE JOHN  HARRIS, explained                                                                    
the library was a priority for the Mat-Su Borough.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #30 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:32:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #31 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 207, line 27, following "project":                                                                                    
     Insert ", unless specifically identified in this                                                                           
     Act as an operating grant,"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained that  the Amendment clarified language                                                                    
inserted  in  the  budget.  Unless  otherwise  noted  as  an                                                                    
operating grant, the grants should  be considered as capital                                                                    
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #31 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to HOLD Amendment #32.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE        6:34:03 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE:          7:29:52 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to WITHDRAW Amendment #33 (Copy on                                                                         
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 158, lines 12 -16:                                                                                                    
     Delete all material                                                                                                        
      Insert "Halibut Point Road - Sawmill Creek Road                                                                           
       to Ferry Terminal Pavement Rehab and Drainage                                                                            
     Improvements (HD 2)"                                                                                                       
     6,500,000 General Fund                                                                                                     
     Adjust fund sources and totals accordingly                                                                                 
     Page 185, line 26:                                                                                                         
     Delete "-Hollis"                                                                                                           
     Page 185, line 33                                                                                                          
     Delete "Gateway Borough"                                                                                                   
     Page 186, line 6                                                                                                           
     Delete "Matanuska-Susitna Borough:"                                                                                        
     Page 186, after line 8:                                                                                                    
     Insert   "Glacier   Highway   -Back   Loop   Road:                                                                         
     Intersection Safety Improvements (HD 80)                                                                                   
     5,000,000 GO Bonds                                                                                                         
     Insert "Mitkof Highway   Scow  Bay to Crystal Lake                                                                         
     Hatchery   Road:  Pavement   Rehab  and   Drainage                                                                         
     Improvements (HD 2)                                                                                                        
     $7,000,000 GO Bonds                                                                                                        
     Insert "Sawmill Creek Road  Upgrade Phase III with                                                                         
     Separated Pedestrian Path    Whale Park to Sawmill                                                                         
     Creek (HD 2)                                                                                                               
     Adjust General Obligation Bond totals accordingly                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #34 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     PART 1                                                                                                                     
     CONCEPTUAL  AMENDMENT:   Add  a   numbers  section                                                                         
     appropriating a  total of $4,933,900  to implement                                                                         
     the  collective  bargaining   agreement  with  the                                                                         
     Public  Safety Employees  Association representing                                                                         
     the regularly commissioned  public safety officers                                                                         
     unit for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.                                                                             
     The  funding  requested  will  be  placed  in  the                                                                         
     appropriations/allocations   as   listed  in   the                                                                         
     following table:                                                                                                           
     Fire and Life Safety Operations:                                                                                           
     General Fund 36,100                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 36,100                                                                                                               
     Special Projects:                                                                                                          
     Federal Receipts 13,200                                                                                                    
     General Fund 31,400                                                                                                        
     CIP Receipts 70,000                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 114,600                                                                                                              
     Alaska Bureau of Judicial Services:                                                                                        
     General Fund 269,800                                                                                                       
     TOTAL 269,800                                                                                                              
     Narcotics Task Force:                                                                                                      
     General Fund Match 15,700                                                                                                  
     General Fund 44,800                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 60,500                                                                                                               
     Alaska State Trooper Detachments:                                                                                          
     General Fund 2,500,600                                                                                                     
     TOTAL 2,500,600                                                                                                            
     Alaska Bureau of Investigations:                                                                                           
     General Fund 159,800                                                                                                       
     TOTAL 159,800                                                                                                              
     Alaska Bureau of Alcohol and Drug Enforcement:                                                                             
     General Fund 65,200                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 65,200                                                                                                               
     Alaska Wildlife Troopers;                                                                                                  
     General Fund 943,600                                                                                                       
     CIP Receipts 10,300                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 953,900                                                                                                              
     Alaska Wildlife Troopers Aircraft Section                                                                                  
     General Fund 6,600                                                                                                         
     TOTAL 6,600                                                                                                                
     Alaska Wildlife Troopers Investigations:                                                                                   
     General Fund 35,500                                                                                                        
     TOTAL 35,500                                                                                                               
     Support:                                                                                                                   
     General Fund 3,700                                                                                                         
     CIP Receipts 7,000                                                                                                         
     TOTAL 10,700                                                                                                               
     Training Academy:                                                                                                          
     General Fund 78,400                                                                                                        
     Inter-Agency Receipts 2,400                                                                                                
     TOTAL 80,800                                                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY TOTAL 4,294,100                                                                                
     Anchorage Airport Safety:                                                                                                  
     Federal Receipts 41,100                                                                                                    
     International Airport Revenue Fund 411,800                                                                                 
     TOTAL 452,900                                                                                                              
     Fairbanks Airport Safety:                                                                                                  
     International Airport Revenue Fund 186,900                                                                                 
     TOTAL 186,900                                                                                                              
     DEPARTMENT    OF    TRANSPORTATION   AND    PUBLIC                                                                         
     FACILITIES TOTAL 639,800                                                                                                   
     This  subsection  should  have   a  July  1,  2008                                                                         
     effective date.                                                                                                            
     PART 2                                                                                                                     
     Amend  sec. 65,  Contingencies,  by  adding a  new                                                                         
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
     (g) The appropriations made in  sec. xx(a) of this                                                                         
     Act   are  contingent   on  ratification   of  the                                                                         
     collective bargaining agreement  by the membership                                                                         
     of  the Public  Safety  Employees Association  for                                                                         
     the regularly commissioned  public safety officers                                                                         
     unit.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained that the Administration settled with                                                                      
the Public Safety Employees Association and the Amendment                                                                       
would fund the settlement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #34 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:31:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #35 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     PART 1:                                                                                                                    
     CONCEPTUAL  AMENDMENT:   Add  a   numbers  section                                                                         
     appropriating a  total of $1,245,600  to implement                                                                         
     the  collective bargaining  agreement with  Public                                                                         
     Employees  Local 71,  for  the  labor, trades  and                                                                         
     crafts unit,  for the fiscal year  ending June 30,                                                                         
     2009.                                                                                                                      
     The  funding  requested  will  be  placed  in  the                                                                         
     appropriations/allocations    listed     in    the                                                                         
     following table:                                                                                                           
     (Details on File; Department Totals listed)                                                                                
     Department of Administration Total 27,500                                                                                  
     Department of Corrections Total 72,000                                                                                     
     Department  of  Education  and  Early  Development                                                                         
     Total 10,400                                                                                                               
     Department  of  Environmental  Conservation  Total                                                                         
     6,000                                                                                                                      
     Department of Fish and Game Total 6,800                                                                                    
     Department  of Health  and  Social Services  Total                                                                         
     99,800                                                                                                                     
     Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce  Development                                                                         
     Total 34,200                                                                                                               
     Department of Military  and Veterans Affairs Total                                                                         
     39,000                                                                                                                     
     Department of Natural Resources Total 23,100                                                                               
     Department of Public Safety Total 8,600                                                                                    
     Department    of    Transportation   and    Public                                                                         
     Facilities Total 918,200                                                                                                   
     This section should have a  July 1, 2008 effective                                                                         
     date.                                                                                                                      
     PART 2:                                                                                                                    
     Amend  sec. 65,  Contingencies,  by  adding a  new                                                                         
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
     (h) The appropriations made in  sec. xx(b) of this                                                                         
     Act  are   contingent  on  ratifications   of  the                                                                         
     collective bargaining agreement  by the membership                                                                         
     of the  Public Employees Local 71,  for the labor,                                                                         
     trades and crafts unit.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund  explained that the  Amendment was the  money to                                                                    
fund the settlement with Local Employees 71.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #35 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #36 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 78, lines 6-9                                                                                                         
     Delete all material                                                                                                        
     Page 78, lines 10-11                                                                                                       
     Make stand-alone appropriation                                                                                             
        Insert to Section 10, in the Department of                                                                              
       Commerce Community and Economic Development,                                                                             
     Grants to Municipalities:                                                                                                  
                      th                                                                                                        
         Anchorage - 40Avenue Extension Lake Otis                                                                               
     Parkway to Dale Street                                                                                                     
     $10,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                           th                                                                   
Mr. Ecklund explained that the Amendment moves the 40                                                                           
Avenue  extension  from  Department  of  Transportation  and                                                                    
Public Facilities  to Department of Commerce,  Community and                                                                    
Economic  Development  as a  grant  to  the Municipality  of                                                                    
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  for  clarification. Mr.  Ecklund                                                                    
explained  that the  project  is already  in  the bill;  the                                                                    
departments think the project  should go to the municipality                                                                    
of Anchorage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #36 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:33:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #37 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Replace Sec. 56(b) With the following language:                                                                            
      (b) The sum of $10,000,000 is appropriated from                                                                           
     the General Fund to the Department of Health and                                                                           
     Social   Services,    Public   Assistance   Energy                                                                         
     Assistance  Program,  for heating  assistance  for                                                                         
     low income  households for the fiscal  year ending                                                                         
     June 30, 2009.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained the Amendment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #37 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #38 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Add a new section to read:                                                                                                 
     Sec.  yy.   DEPARTMENT  OF  LABOR   AND  WORKFORCE                                                                         
     DEVELOPMENT.  The appropriation  made  by sec.  2,                                                                         
     ch. 28, SLA 2007, page  44, lines 22 -24 lapses on                                                                         
     June 30, 2009.                                                                                                             
     Sec. yy  needs to be added  to sec. 69 for  a June                                                                         
     30, 2008 effective date.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund explained:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment enables  the  Department of  Labor                                                                         
     and Workforce  Development to  continue developing                                                                         
     the  training program  for  gas pipeline  workers.                                                                         
     Detailed workforce  planning will be done  for 113                                                                         
     gas line  related occupations with  the assistance                                                                         
     and   guidance  of   a  private   sector  steering                                                                         
     committee.                                                                                                                 
     Of  the   $850.0  appropriated   in  FY   08,  the                                                                         
     department  anticipates  carrying  forward  $250.0                                                                         
     into FY 09.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #38 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #39 was set aside.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
7:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment #40  (Copy on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 25, line 6:                                                                                                           
     Insert before the word "Design" "Site Selection,                                                                           
     Planning,"                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  CUNNINGHAM,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   BILL  STOLTZE,                                                                    
explained that  when the Senate added  the appropriation, it                                                                    
was  thought that  a site  had been  purchased to  house the                                                                    
shooting  range  project.  Discussions with  the  Matanuska-                                                                    
Susitna Borough revealed that no  site selection or planning                                                                    
had occurred.  The additional language would  allow the Mat-                                                                    
Su Borough  to utilize the appropriation  for the additional                                                                    
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  REMOVED  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #40 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:37:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment #41  (Copy on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Insert into Section 10:                                                                                                    
       Great Alaska Council of Boy Scouts of America                                                                            
      Denali High Adventure, Scout Base Bathroom and                                                                            
     Shower Facilities Construction (HD 1-40)                                                                                   
     $377,500 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Adjust fund sources and totals accordingly.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze explained that  the Amendment was offered                                                                    
on behalf of the Boy Scouts for  a camp that brings a lot of                                                                    
people to Alaska. This is one phase of a large project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  REMOVED  his   OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #41 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze WITHDREW Amendment #42.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #43 (Copy on                                                                     
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 193, following line 28:                                                                                               
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
     "(f) The  sum of  $5,000,000 is  appropriated from                                                                         
     the General Fund to the  renewable energy fund (AS                                                                         
     42.45.045)."                                                                                                               
     Page 201, following line 22:                                                                                               
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
     "(c)  The sum  of $2,000,000  is appropriated  fro                                                                         
     the renewable  energy fund  (AS 42.45.045)  to the                                                                         
     Department  of  Commerce, Community  and  Economic                                                                         
     Development, Alaska Energy  Authority, for payment                                                                         
     of a grant under the  authority of AS 44.83.080 to                                                                         
     the  Southeast Conference  for the  Reynolds Creek                                                                         
     hydroelectric project                                                                                                      
     Page 207, following line 20:                                                                                               
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
     "(g) The  appropriations made  in secs.  30(f) and                                                                         
     52(c)  of this  Act are  contingent on  passage by                                                                         
     the  Twenty-Fifth  Alaska  State  Legislature  and                                                                         
     enactment into  law of  a version  of HB  152 that                                                                         
     creates a renewable energy fund.                                                                                           
     Page 207, line 24, following "50(c),"                                                                                      
     Insert "52(c),"                                                                                                            
     Page 208, line 1, following "30(d),":                                                                                      
     Insert "30(f),"                                                                                                            
     Page 208, line 2, before 53(a)":                                                                                           
     Insert "52(c),"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thomas   explained   that   the   Amendment                                                                    
appropriates  $50 million  from  General  Fund to  Renewable                                                                    
Energy  Fund.   He  made  a   technical  amendment   to  the                                                                    
Amendment: line  8, to delete "renewable  energy" and insert                                                                    
"general.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer explained the use of general funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas inserted that the action was                                                                              
contingent upon passage of HB 152.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE             7:43:01 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENE      7:43:53 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas proposed  technical  amendment #2  to                                                                    
Amendment #43: line 21, strike "and 52(c)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #43 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment #44  (Copy of                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency: Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                          
     Project: Jewel Lake Road Construction of Missing                                                                           
     Pedestrian and Storm Facilities (HD 17-32)                                                                                 
     Amount: ADD: $500,000                                                                                                      
     Funding Source: General Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  explained that the  appropriation would                                                                    
construct  missing pedestrian  and  storm drain  facilities.                                                                    
The  lack of  sidewalks  and road  flooding  are creating  a                                                                    
safety and traffic problem in  the are surrounding Sand Lake                                                                    
Elementary school, which is an  immersion school serving the                                                                    
greater  Anchorage area.  The project  has been  bonded; the                                                                    
matching bond funds are in hand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze REMOVED  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #44 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:48:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #45 (Copy on File):                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Add to Section 10:                                                                                                         
        Project Title: "Anchorage Parks Foundation                                                                              
      Foraker/Marston Road Improvement District Trail                                                                           
     and Ball Field Realignment"                                                                                                
     Amount: $85,000                                                                                                            
     Funding Source: General Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES,  SPONSOR, explained that the  road is                                                                    
a priority for the community council:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Current  funding  for   the  Foraker/Marston  Road                                                                         
     Improvement District (RID)  does not include money                                                                         
     to mitigate  the negative  impact on  adjacent Lyn                                                                         
     Ary ball  fields. This project  would put  at ease                                                                         
     community concerns  about safety  in the  park and                                                                         
     access to  park resources by funding  non-Right of                                                                         
     Way components of a revised RID.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze REMOVED his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment #45 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:51:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #39 (Copy on                                                                      
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agency:   Add    to   Sec.   13    Department   of                                                                         
     Transportation                                                                                                             
     Project: Kotzebue Shore Avenue Rehabilitation                                                                              
     Amount: $17.5 mil.                                                                                                         
     Funding Source: General Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule explained:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  project  will  rebuild a  city  road  at  the                                                                         
     ocean's edge. To prevent  the erosion, the project                                                                         
     would rely  on a 3,400  feet of steel  sheet pile,                                                                         
     further protected  by large  stone rip  rap. Above                                                                         
     the  revetment  would  be  a  reconstructed  road.                                                                         
     Kotzebue  is receiving  $20.5  million in  federal                                                                         
     funds.  A  recent  estimate  updated  the  project                                                                         
     costs to  $38 million,  leaving a  $17.5 shortfall                                                                         
     in funding.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer pointed out that there were erosion projects                                                                     
in the Bonds in the Governor's budget. He thought that                                                                          
would free up money for the project.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule hoped that the project would be                                                                            
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked how the project was misjudged by so                                                                        
much.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  RICHARDS, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER OF  HIGHWAYS &  PUBLIC                                                                    
FACILITIES,   DEPARTMENT   OF  TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                                    
FACILITIES,  explained that  the  project was  in the  final                                                                    
stages of  planning when  a review  was conducted.  The high                                                                    
cost of  steel and freight caused  a steep rise in  cost. He                                                                    
thought  it  was  necessary  to bring  the  changes  to  the                                                                    
attention of the Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  asked if there  was a scope  change on                                                                    
the  project. Mr.  Richards  explained  that the  additional                                                                    
$17.5 million would cover the full scope of the project.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:58:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule WITHDREW Amendment  #39. There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:59:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #22 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Add a new project to Section 13:                                                                                           
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Kenai River Public Use Study                                                                                               
     $200,000 General Fund                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault explained the Amendment:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This  study fulfills  a court-ordered  review that                                                                         
     is  required  before  the  Department  of  Natural                                                                         
     Resources  can consider  use  restrictions in  the                                                                         
     Kenai  River  Special  Management  Area,  if  such                                                                         
     restrictions  become necessary  in  the future  to                                                                         
     adequately  manage the  resource.  The study  will                                                                         
     implement  recommendations  found   in  the  Kenai                                                                         
     River Comprehensive Management  Plan by evaluating                                                                         
     the  social dynamics  of recreational  use on  the                                                                         
     river,  as well  as the  environmental impacts  of                                                                         
     human use  on the  river's water quality  and fish                                                                         
     and  wildlife  habitat.  As   public  use  in  the                                                                         
     Management  Area  continues  to expand,  there  is                                                                         
     increased  conflict  between various  recreational                                                                         
     user groups, as well  as increasing impacts on the                                                                         
     water  quality and  health of  the  river. It  has                                                                         
     been four years since  the court order was issued,                                                                         
     and  area  user   groups  have  expressed  growing                                                                         
     concerns   about   the    inability   to   provide                                                                         
     comprehensive   management   due    to   lack   of                                                                         
     implementation of this study.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  pointed out  that the borough  mayor has                                                                    
indicated  concern  with   dip  netters.  Co-Chair  Chenault                                                                    
stated  that dip  netters are  personal use  and their  need                                                                    
outweighs  both commercial  and  sports fishing.  Vice-Chair                                                                    
Stoltze  referred to  strong public  statements. There  have                                                                    
been efforts  to eliminate access. Co-Chair  Chenault stated                                                                    
that  he preferred  to move  the dip  netters. Allowing  all                                                                    
users to  dip net in two  areas has created a  strain on the                                                                    
river stocks.  There is a  great deal of waste  and erosion.                                                                    
The most  pressure comes  from Southcentral  Alaskans coming                                                                    
to the Kenai. He proposed opening the beaches for fishing.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  indicated  that  the  language  in  the                                                                    
Amendment was clear regarding the court order.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LETA  SIMONS,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   SUPPORT  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT    OF    NATURAL    RESOURCES,    responded    to                                                                    
Representative Gara's  query regarding  the river.  She said                                                                    
the  Kenai River  Management Area  covers the  entire river.                                                                    
Representative Gara pointed out  that there are two segments                                                                    
of the  Kenai River.  The dip  net fishery  is in  the lower                                                                    
part  of  the river.    There  has  been pressure  for  more                                                                    
guiding time  on the  upper river,  which concerned  him. He                                                                    
did not support the use of the upper Kenai in that manner.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  understood that  the  study  was to  cover  the                                                                    
entire management  area. It woul  allow the State  to comply                                                                    
with the  Court order.  Representative Gara asked  about the                                                                    
conflict  the court  order addressed.   Ms.  Simons did  not                                                                    
know.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  suggested there  is more pressure  on the                                                                    
lower  Kenai River.   He  recommended a  study to  allow the                                                                    
Department  to  implement  restrictions  on  the  river.  He                                                                    
thought there was more pressure  on the lower Kenai from all                                                                    
user  groups, especially  in June  and July.  The study  was                                                                    
necessary to determine restrictions on the river.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara revisited  his  concerns regarding  the                                                                    
upper river.  Co-Chair Chenault advised  that the  study has                                                                    
resulted from a court order review.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund  emphasized that  if  the  Department wants  to                                                                    
limit or restrict  use on the river, the study  must be done                                                                    
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly did not want modification.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  thought it was  up to the  Department of                                                                    
Natural  Resources to  enact  the  restrictions. Ms.  Simons                                                                    
explained that there  was a court order that  stated until a                                                                    
study was  done, the Department  cannot manage the  river by                                                                    
putting restrictions on  it. She did not know  which part of                                                                    
the  river  the  court  order referenced.  The  options  are                                                                    
limited for management without the study.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  was concerned  with the request.  He did                                                                    
not favor  the Amendment. Representative Gara  noted concern                                                                    
as well.  There is  no organized voice  representing regular                                                                    
fishermen. He wanted  the intent of the study  to be clearer                                                                    
in the Amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:16:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer added that this  was one of the few deletions                                                                    
made from  the Governor's  budget because the  topic elicits                                                                    
highly emotional  responses. He stated he  would not support                                                                    
the Amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  stated support for the  Amendment. He                                                                    
wanted the resource to be protected.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  asked how quickly a  regulation change                                                                    
could  be made  on the  river. Ms.  Simons replied  that the                                                                    
study was one of the tools  the Department could use to make                                                                    
decisions.   Without   the   study   there   is   no   plan.                                                                    
Representative Kelly asked if a  change would be proposed in                                                                    
one year  or five.  Ms. Simons reiterated  that she  did not                                                                    
know.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:20:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  asked  if   there  was  a  desired                                                                    
change.  Ms.  Simons  replied that  the  Department  has  no                                                                    
predisposition or intent. The sole purpose is the study.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken  on the motion to adopt Amendment                                                                    
#22.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Nelson, Thomas, Crawford, Hawker, Joule, Chenault                                                                     
OPPOSED: Kelly, Stoltze, Gara, Meyer                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster was absent from the vote.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6/4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #32 (Copy  on                                                                    
File):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Add a new project to Section 10:                                                                                           
     Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority                                                                                   
     Engineering and Economic Study on Gas Bullet Line                                                                          
     $4,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  explained that  the Amendment  would give                                                                    
the  Alaska Natural  Gas  Development  Authority (ANGDA)  $4                                                                    
million  to  conduct  in-state studies  on  gas  usage.  The                                                                    
Governor had  asked for $8  million for the studies.  The $4                                                                    
million is for phases I and II of the study.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Purpose of funding request:                                                                                                
     The  development of  a  North  Slope gas  pipeline                                                                         
     project has been in flux  for several decades. The                                                                         
     Commissioners  of  Natural Resources  and  Revenue                                                                         
     are  considering  whether   to  recommend  to  the                                                                         
     legislature   issuing  an   AGIA  license   for  a                                                                         
     mainline project moving Alaska  North Slope gas to                                                                         
     market.   There  are   other  alternatives   being                                                                         
     discussed by  the public,  the legislature,  and a                                                                         
     number of private  and semi-public entities. These                                                                         
     alternatives   include  other   mainline  projects                                                                         
     moving large volumes of gas  to markets as well as                                                                         
     other  small in-state  projects serving  primarily                                                                         
     Alaska's energy needs.                                                                                                     
     AGIA  specifically  allows  for  projects  smaller                                                                         
     than 500  MMscfd. The purpose of  this engineering                                                                         
     and  economic  study on  a  bullet  line from  the                                                                         
     North Slope  to Alaska  tidewater is  to determine                                                                         
     if  a small  bullet  line project  is feasible  to                                                                         
     develop. This  information could then  be compared                                                                         
     with  other energy  generating  projects that  are                                                                         
     under  review  to  determine what  energy  sources                                                                         
     would   most  feasibly   serve   the  energy   and                                                                         
     feedstock needs of Alaska.                                                                                                 
     2. Scope of the work effort:                                                                                               
     The  work would  encompass  three  Phases and  the                                                                         
     following major tasks:                                                                                                     
     A Phase  1 basic  economic and  engineering review                                                                         
     of more than two stand  alone small (less than 500                                                                         
     MMscfd)  in-state  gas transmission  line  project                                                                         
     alternatives  covering   Cook  Inlet   and  Valdez                                                                         
     tidewater  terminals,  residential  heat  &  power                                                                         
     uses, methane  enriched NGL  content for  export /                                                                         
     manufacturing,    and   different    North   Slope                                                                         
     production  sources.  This  Phase  I  work  effort                                                                         
     would    identify     the    preferred    economic                                                                         
     alternative. (6 months & less than $1 million)                                                                           
     b.  Phase 2  would develop  more detailed  design,                                                                         
     engineering,  cost and  timing information  on the                                                                         
     preferred alternative.                                                                                                     
          Pipeline sizing and material specification                                                                          
          Operating  pressures,   compressor  stations,                                                                       
     and hydraulic & temperature profiles                                                                                       
          Pipeline installation  & construction -buried                                                                       
     and elevated segments                                                                                                      
          Gas  treatment plant  (if needed)  design and                                                                       
     location on North Slope                                                                                                    
          Receiving terminal design at tidewater                                                                              
          Pipeline  system  routing,  take-off  points,                                                                       
     and intermediate feed-in points                                                                                            
          NGL plant design and sitting at tidewater                                                                           
          Incorporation  of existing  pipeline &  power                                                                       
     infrastructure and manufacturing plants                                                                                    
     •  Integrated  construction planning  &  logistics                                                                         
     This  Phase   2  work   effort  would   produce  a                                                                         
     definitive project cost  estimate and construction                                                                         
     schedule (18 months in parallel  with Phase 3 at a                                                                         
     cost of $6 million).                                                                                                       
     c. Phase 3 would  develop the economic analysis of                                                                         
     potential  financing  alternatives  and  potential                                                                         
     profitability  of   the  project.   Potential  gas                                                                         
     sellers & buyers would  be identified thru letters                                                                         
     of  intent. Phase  3 would  define the  business &                                                                         
     financial underpinnings of  the project (12 months                                                                         
     after a cost estimate is  available at a cost of $                                                                         
     1 million)                                                                                                                 
     3. Schedule:                                                                                                               
     a. Phase 1  work effort would be  complete by year                                                                         
     end  2008 and  Phase 2  & 3  definitions would  be                                                                         
     available by early 2010.                                                                                                   
     4. Funding Request:                                                                                                        
     a.  $4  million for  work  to  be done  by  Alaska                                                                         
     engineering contractors  and business  / financial                                                                         
     consultants.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HAROLD C.  HEINZE, CHIEF  EXECUTIVE OFFICER,  ALASKA NATURAL                                                                    
GAS   DEVELOPMENT    AUTHORITY   (ANGDA)    (testified   via                                                                    
teleconference),   thought   the   proposal   was   entirely                                                                    
compatible  with  the  concurrent Resolution.  He  said  the                                                                    
appropriation would  fund the study through  the fiscal year                                                                    
and  would  further define  key  issues.  The total  funding                                                                    
request  would be  $8 million,  which could  mean a  further                                                                    
request in  the next  year for $4  million. The  study would                                                                    
look at Cook Inlet and Valdez.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  asked if work  done to date  would be                                                                    
utilized. Mr.  Heinze replied  that all  past work  that has                                                                    
been done would  be incorporated. ANGDA had taken  a look at                                                                    
a  number of  issues. A  recent Department  of Energy  study                                                                    
would be  incorporated. The  Economic Development  and Trade                                                                    
Committee stressed  that the changing  price world  leads to                                                                    
different potential  for Alaska, for instance  in the value-                                                                    
added industry.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked  how  much money  was left.  Mr.                                                                    
Heinze responded  that based  on last  year's appropriation,                                                                    
$4.8 million is left to spend.  Of that, over $3 million has                                                                    
not been firmly committed. The  rest is allocated to the two                                                                    
major  issues related  to  the spur  line.  The other  major                                                                    
portion  of the  funding that  is allocated  but uncommitted                                                                    
for basic  open season process, the  working with utilities,                                                                    
and  fulfilling ANGDA's  unique  role to  provide a  pivotal                                                                    
point related to long-term financing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Heinze  thought that the  $4 million, which would  be in                                                                    
lieu of  the Governor's request  for $8 million,  would move                                                                    
the project  ahead. Representative Kelly asked  if ANGDA was                                                                    
coordinating  with the  Administration. Mr.  Heinze said  he                                                                    
has  the  support  of the  Administration  on  the  in-state                                                                    
study.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment #32 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:34:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer MOVED  to ADOPT  technical  amendment #1  on                                                                    
Amendment #1, p.3, item 11:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     11) Language Section:                                                                                                      
     Delete "Page 205 lines 18-24"                                                                                              
     Insert "Delete Section 61"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund referred to handout  "Composition of the Capital                                                                    
Budget   HCS  SB 221 Version N" (Copy on  File). He reviewed                                                                    
the items:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   • The Governor's projects included  in the Senate Capital                                                                  
     Budget: $31.3 million FY08 effective, $1.227 million                                                                       
     FY09 effective                                                                                                             
   • Senate  Legislative  additions  in the  Senate  Capital                                                                  
     Budget: $75 million FY08 effective, $574 million FY09                                                                      
     effective                                                                                                                  
   • Total  for the  Senate Capital  Budget: $106.3  million                                                                  
     FY08 effective, $1,801.2 million FY09 effective, TOTAL                                                                     
     $1907.5 million                                                                                                            
   • The Governor's  projects included in the  House Capital                                                                  
     Budget: $310.7 million FY08 effective, $109.7 million                                                                      
     FY09 effective                                                                                                             
   • House  Legislative  additions   in  the  House  Capital                                                                  
     Budget: $315.5 million FY08 effective, $0 million FY09                                                                     
     effective                                                                                                                  
   • Total  for the  House  Capital  Budget: $732.5  million                                                                  
     FY08 effective, $1,910.9 million FY09 effective, TOTAL                                                                     
     $2,643.4 million                                                                                                           
   • GO Bonds: $220.6 million FY09 effective                                                                                  
   • Total  House  CS  Capital  Bill  with  Bonds:  $2,864.0                                                                  
     million                                                                                                                    
   • 64% of Version     N were the Governor's proposed                                                                        
     projects; 25% were Senate additions; 12% were House                                                                        
     additions                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  verified   that  the  amendments  the                                                                    
Committee  had  just  adopted were  not  included  in  those                                                                    
totals.  Mr.  Ecklund  said  the  new  total  had  not  been                                                                    
tallied.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to  give  Legislative Finance  and                                                                    
Legal the  ability to make technical  and conforming changes                                                                    
to  the  CS  as  they  redraft  the  bill.  There  being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:39:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thomas  noticed   that  the   Alaska  Works                                                                    
Partnership   was  back   in  the   bill.  He   wanted  more                                                                    
information about how many people were trained.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara verified  that the  bonded projects  in                                                                    
Sec. 19 are in the bill contingent on the bond passing.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer clarified  that  those were  only the  bonds                                                                    
that the House passed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  stated  for  the record  that  he  was                                                                    
uncomfortable putting the extra money into the budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  acknowledged that the capital  budget was                                                                    
large but  hoped that  the public  would recognize  the wide                                                                    
range of  needs that had  been addressed. He pointed  to the                                                                    
approximately $5 billion that had been put into savings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  added  that though  some  would  think  the                                                                    
budget  was too  high, others  would think  it was  too low.                                                                    
There were  many amendments  people wanted  to make  but did                                                                    
not. He thought  the budget was good and as  efficient as it                                                                    
could be. For every dollar spent, two dollars were saved.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer pointed out that  communities are hurting for                                                                    
the same  reason the State  has the surplus: the  high price                                                                    
of  oil. He  wanted to  share that  wealth through  building                                                                    
schools and libraries, through  revenue sharing, and putting                                                                    
money into the municipalities. He  hoped the budget would be                                                                    
seen as a fair one.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  acknowledged the work  and cooperation                                                                    
of Committee  members and staff.  He thanked  Co-Chair Meyer                                                                    
for his work.  Co-Chair Meyer acknowledged the  hard work of                                                                    
staff.  Vice-Chair  Stoltze   echoed  Representative  Joule.                                                                    
Representative Crawford complimented Co-Chair Meyer.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to REPORT  HCS CS SB  221 (FIN)                                                                    
out  of  Committee  with individual  recommendations.  There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HCS CSSB 221 (FIN) was REPORTED  out of Committee with a "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 8:48 PM.                                                                                           

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